November 10th, 2008 Rusty
“A Watched Pot Never Boils,” my mother always said. Or ws that Mother Goose? Regardless, I decided to make use of my time waiting for Vista to finish its launch sequence and two minute count down.
Here’s an idea, multiple boot profiles. For instance, I’d like a dev lite boot profile. That would be just the OS and Visual Studio with a few browsers and IIS. Don’t need chat, don’t need email, don’t need network discovery or ready boost or fast search indexing or update manager or user experience reporting monitor or Office quick start or adobe quick start or adobe, for that matter, or itunes or SQL Server… I’ll bet that’d shave some time off a reboot!
Hm, sounds like my XP VMWare image is about to grow up
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November 5th, 2008 Rusty
As a follow-up to my post on whether to choose Vista or XP for VMWare Fusion, I thouht I’d add this.
Lunch time, er, Launch Time
I didn’t time it scientifically but I definitely noticed. I had booted my Vista VM and was frustrated by how long I had to wait. I went and got a drink, came back, walked around a bit, checked again, got the mail, fed the dog, and finally, Vista was ready to use.
Then I realized I needed to launch my XP image to check in the changes I’d not yet committed to Subversion. XP launched in about 30 seconds.
One more thing to consider if you shut down when you are done.
p.s. If you use an external drive for VMWare images, always shut down or completely suspend before shutting down the host. Nasty things happen if you don’t. Of course, on occassion, you may get Vistaed on shut down so plan ahead.
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November 5th, 2008 Rusty
I have been using VMWare Fusion on the mac for 8 months or so. Overall, I am extremely happy with the performance and capabilities is gives me. Obviously, running windows on a Mac while also using Mac native apps is a given. However, I also value the isolation it provides to my Windows installation and the flexibility it provides for managing and maintaining my Windows (virtual) machine. Each time I think I would be better off running Windows off the bare metal, all I have to do is peek my head around and watch my dev counterpart, Bill, and his Toshiba running Vista… 8 times out of 10, there’s a spinning blue disc where his mouse icon should be. 2 out of 10, he’s getting Vistaed.
VmWare Considerations
First things, first. If you are planning to run VM, you need space. Unlike a real computer that manages memory judiciously, virtual machines have to hoard it, keep in on one place, and use it in ways that physical machines do not. In return, you get the ability to copy a computer from drive to drive. You can archive an entire machine onto an external device for safe keeping. You can modify it, roll it back, branch it, etc. That’s coooooool.
Hard drive: You need hard drive space. Get as much as possible. Most people recommend using an external harddrive for your VM image. I only recently started doing this for reasons I’ll explain in a minute. I found that my MacBook Pro with a 180G 5400rpm HD was more than fast enough to give me excellent performance with just the internal harddrive. However, that is not very much space when you start adding entire computers to it.
I recently purchased a 500G external portable from Costco.com. It rocks. I purchased that to replace my 160G of the same brand. More on that shortly.
Get no less than 500G. Seriously. If you are going to use an external drive, don’t screw around. I recommend a TB. Here is a SimpleTEch, USB 2.0, bus powered, 1 Terabyte, 7200RPM drive for $150. It’s the model I have but twice the size. I needed mine in a hurry. I wish I’d gotten that instead.
Memory: Max it. Think of VMWare as a mafia henchmen who, when asked how much it cost to save your life, he replies, "how much you got?"
I have 4G in my macBook. I am reading that people have gotten 6 to work. I am probably going to upgrade soon. While I can run one VM and all my necessary tools with 4, I get a little crippled when I fire Adobe Illustrator up while my VM Vista is running. XCode? fuh-get-about it. Xcode is a pig. I can run XCode and one other app. That has nothing to do with VMWare. If you are thinking of developing an iPhone app that connects to Asp.Net, you need all the ram you can slam into that board.
XP or Vista, man, get to the point
Here’s the deal. Vista is prettier. You can hack your XP theme to look a little like Vista. The difference is subtle, but not negligible. Vista with Visual Studio on it is going to require at least 40 Gig of space just for the guts. The same thing using XP? 5 Gig. There’s the single, biggest deal maker for you to worry about.
If you are not hard drive constrained and you have a license for Vista, use Vista. You get IIS 7, no BSOD, a supported OS, up to date driver and hardware support, etc.
If you have limited hard drive space, or you rarely use the image, use XP. You’ll have the challenges of IIS 6 and I have gotten the BSOD once for no apparent reason (although that Vista theme hack could have something to do with it).
What you won’t get, as of this writing, is Vista Aero. I have been wating for that gem to come down the pipe but it must not be a VMWare priority. The only thing I really miss is that cool window rolodex thingy. I could give a rats patooty about window bar transparency.
VM Maintenance
I don’t use snapshots. At least not intentionally. I preder to copy my VM Image to a safe place when I have just cleaned it up and made it archive ready.
Here is a great post about how to shrink your VMWare fusion disk image
NOTE: the catalyst for this post was that I messed up my Vista VM following that recipe. While I ran SDelete, my disk ran out of space.
Running SDelete will require that you have free disk space larger than the disk image you are cleaning. So, if you VMWare Vista image has creeped up to 60 Gigs, and it WILL, you need more than that free.
After SDelete failed to complete and I had to force quit Fusion, I had to dig into the VMWare Image Package to delete the state file so I could launch the machine. This, fortunately, recovered the VM but it left a bunch of orphaned snapshots in the package. Now my 60G image was now 90G! Argh! I tried to deleted snapshots using the menu option in VMWare but this failed. Same issue. Deleting snapshots requires that you have enough space to double the image size. VMWare will consolidate the images by writing 1 new image that includes the result of combingin all the snapshot images, discarding chane deltas.
Running Delete Snapshots will require that you have free disk space larger than the disk image package you are cleaning.
So… all this being said. If you plan to run Vista and use it like a rented mule, you need 200 Gig dedicated to that image. Why 200?! Because you might get lazy, like me, and let your VM become bloated and then wish to clean it up. At that time, you might, like me, be sitting on a 90G iamge that could be 35 fully optimized. In order to get your space back, you need working space.
A little XP Nostalgia
While I labored though that space turmoil, I ran and enhanced my XP image. I’d started playing with it a while back but continued using Vista as it was snappy and reliable. During this whole fiasco, I couldn’t use my Vista VM so I fired up that XP image and worked with it. I’ll say that it reminded me of going from an Acura TL to a Honda Accord. They are both nice cars. The latter is stripped down a little but much more fuel efficient and definitely less expensive. The former is at the same time more powerful and less reliable (at least my TLs have been less reliable). I intentionally did not install everything I usually use on XP so that my image would remain lean and portable.
During this exercise, I discovered some things I could do to make my everyday development experience much more performant. In light of getting back to productivity, I am going to end this post with the following:
Keep you image small, install what you need, make frequent backups and get as much memory and storage as you can afford.
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November 5th, 2008 Rusty
I was surprised today that I could not find a post about "Getting Vistaed". Its become such a common term in my small office that I was sure it was ubiquitous. Not so. In fact, the only reference I found was a reference to that silly, fake experiment where people were shown Vista and told it was the next OS to see if they rated it higher than their current perception of Vista (media and community influenced). Sure, when I first used Vista, I liked it better than XP. I still do. However, the improvements were incremental, not monumental. The increased footprint and elevated hardware performance requirements were more significant than the useful features. As a software developer, I can completely understand the fact that this was the bridge that Microsoft needed to cross to evolve their platform and the old Windows Kernel couldn’t come across. That is a HUGE undertaking and I sympathize with Microsoft and the Vista teams for the public beating they’ve taken as a result.
Getting Vistaed (Vista’d)
Getting Vistaed : get-ting vis⋅taed
[get-ting vis-tuhd] –verb
1. Experiencing a spinning blue disk, sometimes accompanied by a darkened screen, where a computer running Windows Vista stops responding for an extended, indeterminate amount of time, after which the screen will return to normal display without any indication as to WTF it was doing. Usually occurs when nothing resource intensive was initiated such as typing an email or answering a nearby telephone.
2. The act of accepting Vista’s prompt to install "updates" whereby the computer spends the next 0.5 to 2 hours showing inaccurate progress indicators of software installations. During this time the computer is unavailable for productive work of any kind and the user is encouraged to catch up on reading or go to the gym and have a good long workout.
Growing up after going overboard
Vista has definitely come a long way in the last 3 years (has it really been that long?). I now use it regularly without complaining that its getting in my way. The features that were added certainly give it an edge over XP. I don’t game or use video intense applications so I can’t attest to the improvements in UI and video, but I expect that a Vista machine can do things no XP machine could. There’s still that lagging WPF framework that developers like me haven’t yet embraced and exploited. I haven’t heard of a virus corrupting someone’s machine since its release. I almost never see the BSOD using Vista. I remember Windows 2000 as a really stable operating system. I recently used a computer running Windows 2000 and I can promise you that no one would want to return to that computing experience. We’ve all grown up. We’ve all come to expect more. That’s why Vista got the shaft when it didn’t rock out of the box. It needed an awful lot of tweaking to bring it back up to snuff with the mature, but old as dirt and unable to evolve, Windows 3.1 kernel. Its there now, sort of.
Apple just got there sooner
Steve Jobs, after a short hiatus doing amazing things, rejoined Apple in 1997. Apple (sans SJ) had been developing a long overdue, next gen OS code-named Copland. Apparently, it sucked. They dumped it, scrapped it, fitted it with cement shoes and tossed it overboard. They then developed and released OSX. When the most recent update to OSX came out, there were problems. Apple got them remedied quickly. The point is, Apple "started over" 10 years ago and now their OS absolutely rocks. Microsoft did the same just 3 years ago. They are certainly a little behind. I’ve heard that Windows 7 is nice. I am hopeful, like a Barack Obama campaign speech, that Microsoft has been heads down for the last three years, focusing on the future and on innovation and on what their OS could be, rather than what it is or what it used to be. With Vista will pass the term "Getting Vistaed", I hope…
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April 2nd, 2008 Rusty
I’m presently writing this post using Windows Live Writer, running on Windows Vista, sand-boxed within VMWare fusion, hosted on my MacBook Pro with 4G ram. That may seem like a lot of overhead but rest assured, its screaming fast, stable, reliable and a pleasure to use. First, I can’t say enough about my Mac. After spending ten years learning the intricacies of managing and optimizing a Windows OS, I can honestly say I have had to learn almost nothing about managing or optimizing a Mac OS. I have played in Terminal only because I think its fun. However, the only thing I’ve changed from default is to install the magic SmartSleep preference pane from Patrick Stein. More on that in a sec… My motivation for posting this was what I consider to be complete dribble. Rather than even entertain the moron who posted the article that I found on Digg and wasted my time, I’ll link to the first debunk. The only reason to switch from Mac to PC is that the users of the computer do not justify the added up front expense and their time, and the time of their systems support, is worth less than that difference in cost or they are really, really good at multi-tasking. more on that in a sec…
Volume Might Invalidate my Opinion Entirely
Now… if you are buying twelve laptops for a group of sales people who are somewhat likely to drop their computer and the only app they use is MS Office, buy PC and stop reading.
PC is More Productive than Mac? Nonsense
Perhaps it is an April Fools joke? The reality is that I moved to the mac so I could have a better Windows experience. I was tired of fixing my Windows machines, tired of reinstalling the OS, tired of driver incompatibilities, tired of not being able to print to network attached printers, tired of being "Vista’d", tired of the spinning blue circle and no explanation for WTF it was doing. Tired of everything that Vista brought to my otherwise happy programming world. I now experience none of this. that’s right, none. Twice since I’ve had this device, Vista has crumbled and needed a reboot. I happily rebooted. I’m inside VMWare so this is completely tolerable. I can continue working while I reboot, on the same computer. That is incredible! In fact, I just timed a few things for the record. Vista takes about 90 seconds to boot from powered down in VMWare. When it wakes, it is ready to rock, network available, no spinning mystery cursors. There is absolutely no extra crap loading into memory because Dell wants to remind me to buy ink or some nonsense. OS, necessary drivers, go.
Super Fast Sleep, Super Fast Wake
I set my sleep mode to smartSleep so that, when battery is good, it will not write to disk before allowing itself to be bagged. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve pulled a laptop out of the case only to find the battery dead, fan screaming, case red hot and in a state that is anything but sleeping. This is true of my previous Windows based machines and my Mac. I’ve learned to watch for the blinky light. But not no more! Now, with sleep (rather than hibernate), 6 seconds to bag, 3 seconds to ready. Open the case, count to 3, work, right where you left off. I the battery is below 20% when you close the case, it will write to disk.
Windows CAN be Stable - Vista Suckertude is Dell’s Fault
I keep Windows open all day, usually on my external right monitor. I use Mac for my gmail and general browsing. This set up is rock solid reliable, fast, and highly productive. I can always print (if Vista refuses, I just copy my file to my mac OS and print). I can always work (if Vista dies, I can continue working while I reboot). I never have to install something on my critical OS that I am not 100% certain is not going to cause issues. So far, nothing I’ve tried quite compares to blogging with Windows Live Writer. I am free to use my Windows apps at will. I also get to be part of the exclusive club of geeks who paste apple stickers on the back of their cars.
Mac Productivity Wins
I am significantly more productive with a MacBook Pro than I was with my previous Dell or Lenovo laptops. The cost? Go price a base model MacBook Pro, $40 for VMWare fusion from Amazon, $70 for 4G ram from New Egg, a Vista or XP OS license and then compare that to the price of, say, a Toshiba with similar specs. Its not cheap. If your time is more valuable then the difference in price, pull the trigger and thank me later. I still owe Mark Jones drinks! (thanks dude)
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February 27th, 2008 Rusty
Much like having the opportunity to unwrap a Blackberry and an iPhone at the same time, I’ve been building a clean Windows Server and setting up windows software development environments inside VMWare on both Windows and Mac.
Windows Native Install
I started a new job this week and have been building a new development / integration server for the new gig. The server was resistant to my intentions and required many hours of trial and error to find drivers that work. The solution ended up being simple but HP provided zero support or documentation, nVidia did not list support for Server 2003 (32bit) and there are now dozens of driver search sites that are even more ambiguous and misleading than the manufacturers. Its really not Microsoft’s fault that Vistal sucks right now but it seams as though hardware vendors aren’t really held accountable for supporting advanced use of the platform. Eventually, I got the server up and running and am quite happy with the performance so far.
Windows Virtual Install on MacBook Pro
Apple, however, made me get excited to use their machine. It was packaged nicely and, when I plugged it in, it worked. I had Vista installed and running in an hour. Of course, it is definitely worth noting that I only had to ckick a few times and was able to perform other functions during the install because it was all within a virtual environment on VMWare Fusion. So far, I’ve only clicked around in Vista under VMWare on Mac but it seems to be snappy and responsive. I have not enabled graphics accelleration so I do not have transparent windows. I think I can live with that but i may give accelleration a try later.
Windows Virtual Install on Windows
Windows just completed a VMWare installation of Vista now. It also completed quickly and required little interaction. It came up without networking and the responsiveness inside the virtual environment is very slow. I don’t think I could use it fulltime as it is. I’m sure more ram and moving it to an external hard drive would help. However, no network is a bit of a pisser. …following up, I installed VMWare tools and the networking problem resolved itself. Additionally, mouse responsiveness was corrected and the machine is now much more comparable to the Mac instance.
Results
The Mac experience was infinitely better from start to finish. The fact that Windows did not bridge networking is ironic and typical. Again, I can’t blame Microsoft for VMWare’s support of Windows 2003 Server on an HP Pavilion as a host but I sure can give credit to Apple for building a platform where I can accomplish my tasks without obstacles. I’m sure with extended use, the gap would narrow and experience would compensate for intuitiveness and ease of use. However, I am looking forward to more first experience enjoyment and less time learning non-essential, transient skills such as driver incompatability diagnostics and configuration tricks.
Tags: apple, virtualization, Vista
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February 26th, 2008 Rusty
The HP Pavilion a6357c Intended Purpose
I purchased a desktop at Costco for the explicit purpose of using it as a development/integration server at my new job. It is important to me that it run Windows Server 2003 r2 since this is the OS we use for our production server. While I am a big fan of Virtualization, I believe you should have a hardware-comparable dev server to do extensive testing against and it should run the same host OS as what you plan to deploy to.
The Lobotomy
The HP machine had stats that would make a playboy centerfold blush but it came with Vista Home as its brain (rrrrrrrrrrrright).
I fired it up long enough to see that the computer was not DOA and then rebooted, bringing up the Windows Server 2003 installation discs start screen. I immediately “formatted C:”. I can’t tell you how fulfilling it is to wipe a Vista install off a factory computer. Its much like shooting a 9mm at a gun range for geeks.
I chose the full format on a 500 gig drive. Not exactly recommended unless you do this right before you go to bed. A looooong time later, I installed Windows Server on the new partition. I left the HP restore partition there in the event this thing needs to be returned to the store. Its 9 of 500 gig, I thought it worth the lost space.
The Sound of Balloon Deflation
Now the fun begins… I’ll be more to the point for the rest of this post.
When I launched my new Windows Server 2003 r2 HP Pavilion a6357a, I had no ethernet, grainy screen and all the usual device driver notices you’d expect from a fresh install.
I tried 9 different driver sets. Nowhere was 32 bit Server 2003 listed as a supported driver. Fortunately, the USB ports worked so I could easily move the drivers from a connected machine to my disabled HP.
The Drivers that Drove
During my extensive research (reading forums), I learned that the recommended approach for 32bit Server 2003 was to install the XP drivers. Why they don’t just list that on the site is beyond me. 64 bit is listed, so the “not a server product” argument doesn’t fly. …but I digress.
Go to http://www.nVidia.com and click on “download drivers”. Then select your hardware.
Costco was nice enough to provide a spec sheet on their site.
This is the correct mother board driver.
After that, install the video drivers for force 6150SE nForce 430
When you install, nVidia will alert you that the control panel could not be launched because hardware acceleration is not enabled. Just follow the instructions for enabling hardware acceleration and all is well.
Not so hard after all! …and not a single resource online indicating that this might work - until now.
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January 13th, 2008 Rusty
My recent post: Lenovo restore and recovery - 3rd try is the charm indicated that I had successfully restored the system to a trimmed down state using the factory Lenovo Rescue and Recovery partition. It didn’t go into any detail as to whether that was a good thing to have done. BTW, I didn’t realize until just now that its Rescue not Restore.
Restore from Lenovo Partition Using Custom Configuration
To make sure I’ve clearly explained what I did, here it is.
I created a custom Restore manifest in Lenovo Restore and Recovery to refresh the operating system with only the necessary drivers and utilities. I omitted all the ThinkVantage (crap) software that I could and chose absolutely no third party utilities, tools or programs except Adobe Acrobat and Sun JVM. I then initiated a complete restore using this configuration. After the refresh, I installed all the things I needed, including 7-Zip, TortoiseSVN, Elaborate Bytes VirtualCloneDrive, Office Ultimate (not on the restore image), Google Toolbar (opted out of updater but they installed it anyway), Visual Studio 2005, TestDriven.Net, SQL Server Express with Tools, Paint.Net, Firefox with Firebug and Windows Live Writer. I then disabled start up items (like Acrobat and the surprised to find Google Updater).
The Results of My lenovo Lobotomy
Since the Lenovo Lobotomy, my X61 absolutely rocks. Vista is even (dare I jinx myself) stable…
If things continue to work as smoothly as they have this past week, I am a happy camper.
Here are the noticeable differences between my computer today and the one that shipped from Lenovo. Note: this is a comparison of the computer from the factory, before I installed anything, and what I am using today. After I installed a few non-invasive things on the original build, it became unusable (the factory image).
Things that are better:
- The screen color is right. The first thing I noticed on my new X61 was that the screen was yellow and looked like a computer from the 80’s. I’d tweaked the gamma to compensate but it wasn’t clean and sharp. Now it is! (wtf?)
- Boot up is reasonable. I haven’t timed it but it comes up quickly.
- Return from sleep is instant. Before the refresh it took more than 90 seconds to go from sleep to ready. I was getting truly irritated about this and was ready to disable sleep entirely and even got in the habit of shutting down for now reason. Yes, I mean sleep, not hibernate.
- Windows Explorer doesn’t crash. This is probably where I am jinxing myself.
- The computer is usable. The way the thing was shipped to me is a crime.
Always Clean a New Windows Computer
Buying a Windows based computer from a major player like Dell, Lenovo or HP will always leave you with something that does not perform as well as it could. I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why they "f" up your computer before they give it to you. Sure, they get $$$ for installing trials of things. Perhaps there are some executives at these companies insisting that the system engineers provide every tool their competitor does so they just hack it all together out of spite. Regardless, it sucks, and we suffer.
This punctuates the fact that I need to create standard builds for my organization. I really only four or five. I need a server, an office desktop, a developer desktop, an office laptop and a developer laptop. I am seriously considering using Linux for Server and Developer OS and installing VMWare on top of that. Then we could create, use, move, share and manage nothing but VMWare instances. I need to prototype that concept and that requires time so I am not expecting that anytime soon. So stuck on hardware, be I.
I would actually pay extra for a factory machine that had nothing but the raw OS installed when it arrived. I would be more than willing to install everything I want from an online software repository. If there is anyone out there who would like to start a computer company, be the first to market with the LeanMachine. I’ll buy them.
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January 9th, 2008 Rusty
Following up from Vista Lobotomy
I’ll bet I can set you up with any girl in the bar
I ran the restore process from beginning to end. My system came up fresh, light, almost sexy! I started entering my username, password, computer name, start menu icon, background - poof! The screen went black and a reboot ensued. It reminded me of an evening a long time ago, from days when I had less to be thankful for, and I had managed to take a girl home from a karoke bar… It was really just another guy winning a bet that he could hook me up with any girl in the bar. To my disappointment, the waitress was not on the table (literally and figuratively). Nonetheless, he won the bet, I drove the girl, we went inside and my 20ish excitement peaked when suddenly - snooooore. She passed out.
Just like that night, I hadn’ given up home. I tried to spark the system to life but when it awoke, it had no idea who I was. The username I entered was not my user, it was “other user” and no password I tried would work. Many years ago, I gave up, went to bed and left in the morning. Today I returned to meetings and ran restore and recovery all over again.
Another night alone
The restore process, several hours later, informed me: “Windows could not be installed. Please try the restore process, again.”
How much is a macBook, anyway?
So I took the damn thing home and tried it again. This time, I just left it alone, touched nothing, and waited. Just a few minutes ago, the screens prompting me to enter my user information loaded. Wow! You’d think it had done my laundry, washed my car and made me breakfast! I entered my stuff, carefully, and got through to first launch.
Tip: do NOT try to select one of the backgrounds from Lenovo if you’ve not included them in the optional installation selections. Aparently, that’s all it takes to corrupt the whole Vista install process.
So I am presently blogging from my squeeky-clean Vista install. It is down right snappy. Sidebar doesn’t even crash. Maybe it wasn’t Microsoft that caused all that crashing before? Well, any software works well when it is all by its lonesome.
So far, I am a supporter of using the Lenovo Restore and Recovery to clean a new x61.
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January 9th, 2008 Rusty
I am about to completely refresh my almost brand new Lenovo x61 tablet. I recently installed VS.Net 2005 and disabled some startup items and the thing started choking badly. Explorer crashes every few minutes. Networking is on and off. Random applications hang. Files take as long as 90 minutes to open. Task Manager won’t launch. Dead, khaput, trashed, useless. Oh, Vista, you giant piece of s%*#!
I’ve just completed a custom restore manifest using Lenovo “Base Software Administrator” and backed up every file I thought I couldn’t afford to lose.
I have about 10 seconds left on the last copy to an external drive (Vista users will know that this actually means it might be several minutes). Next up, reboot and enter system restore.
After reading John Robbins’s blog entry about the trials and tribulations of OEM installs, I’ve decided to give Vista one more chance. I’m more inclined to go out and get an Apple MacBook but I haven’t got the cash and this computer was running ok until I tried to install some software. How dare I?! Perhaps removing all that OEM crap and superflous utilities will make things better.
…gone! I just kicked off the recovery process. I am not sure I needed to create the custom manifest using the Lenovo BSA software as the recovery process offered a custom recovery option where I was able to unselect every option except Adobe Reader and Sun JRE 6.0. YEs, I recommend this as a first step when receiving your new Lenovo X61. Don’t hesitate, the Lenovo software that is unselectable both sucks and is completely unnecessary. (Don’t worry, I will ammend my post if I turn out to be wrong).
I truly hope that I will have a working laptop in a couple of hours. If I have any more trouble, its off to find out how to “upgrade to a more familiar operating system” …xp.
I will refrain from making self-gratifying remarks against Vista suffice to say, “c’mon people, get it together!)
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